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haknslash
02-06-2014, 05:56 PM
It is time to update my cards due to the increased demand and render times getting in the way of things. My current setup is Quadro 4000, 600 and a Tesla C2075. Based on paper I want to try out the Kepler technology but I remember the performance wasn't that great at the time these cards launched. My work is still a bit hesitant on using GTX cards in place of our traditional workstation cards so right now I'm just trying to get a few ideas for a great, fast GPU setup.

The K5000 would certainly handle my CAD and 3D modeling tasks but how does it perform these days with Shot? Will I notice drastic reduction in realtime ray tracing and animation rendering times compared to my current 4000, 600, Tesla 2075 setup? I know the CUDA cores are like quadruple the amount I currently have but after reading thru the benchmark thread again on here I was disappointed to see that even having all those extra CUDA cores on the newer Kepler cards, the results weren't anything I would of been happy about, especially considering the cost of all those cards. Is the same still true today or has Nvidia optimized their newer cards to work with iray and renderers better? This forum and section has been pretty dead so I'm just wondering if times have changed on these cards now that they've been out for a while.



Basically would a K5000 be significantly faster than my 4000, 600 and C2075 combined (I think that's around >900 CUDA cores or so and 3GB vram total)?
If not, what would you chose if you had a $2000 budget to upgrade the cards in your rig (GTX setups are OK too)?
For software I use primarily Autodesk products for my modeling (Inventor, 3DSMax, mudbox, etc) and Shot Pro for my final rendering and animations.

Thanks in advance guys.

blitz
02-07-2014, 06:03 AM
Get 3x used GTX 580's with after market air cooling. Best performance per dollar. Or if you are temperature/wattage conscious and money is not an object, get 3x780's.

haknslash
02-10-2014, 04:49 PM
I would like to try 3 gaming cards (I run an EVGA ACX SC GTX780 in my home gaming rig) but IT just isn't feeling warm and fuzzy about me running anything other than workstation level cardsdue to drivers and crap (I know ....I know). While GTX cards would certainly be ideal for Bunkspeed, some of my other programs benefit more from workstation drivers than the lesser optimized GeForce drivers, so that's something I need to consider. What may be blistering fast in Shot may hinder me to a crawl snail pace elsewhere if it's in software that takes advantage of the optimized drivers.

I don't think a single K5000 is going to suit my needs and for that I've looked into running another Tesla combo or a dual K5000 combo...

2x K5000's = 3072 CUDA cores @ ~$3600
1x K5000 & 1x Tesla K20 = 4032 CUDA cores @ ~$4900

Is anyone on here running a K5000 and K20 combo and care to report your opinions on how it's been working out for you with Shot?

haknslash
02-11-2014, 09:21 PM
Woohoo just spoke with my boss and IT and they've agreed to let me build my render rig!!!! Going with 3 780 Ti's I think! Me is a happy camper now!

haknslash
02-13-2014, 06:36 PM
So here is the build I've pieced together. Thoughts? Anyone have any personal experiences with this motherboard or processor? Reviews seem good and it gives me the flexibility to run a fourth card if ever needed in the future.

Corsair Obsidian Series 900D super tower case
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79 motherboard
Intel Core i7 4820k Ivy Bridge-E 3.9GHz quad-core processor
3x EVGA SC ACX GTX 780 Ti graphics cards
Corsair AX1200i 1200w power supply
G-Skill Trident X Series 2400 32GB (4x8GB) RAM
1x Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD
1x Western Digital Black Series 1TB HDD
11x Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition 120mm high performance static pressure fans
Corsair Hydro H100i liquid cpu cooler
NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" touchscreen fan controller
ASUS Black DVD/CD optical drive
Windows 7 Professional

Mar10
02-13-2014, 08:21 PM
While I don't have experience with the exact processor or motherboard listed, I think you would be very happy with this setup. We purchased a slightly toned down but similar setup late last year that just screams compared to our previous setup. This machine has been amazing even with only 2 GTX 780's. I look forward to filling the 2 extra GPU spaces on this and really seeing what it can do. I don't think you'll be disappointed with this setup.


Corsair Obsidian 550D
Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50 GHz
ASUS MAXIMUS VI EXTREME
32GB DDR3 1600Mhz
1200W Corsair Pro Platinum Series
128GB - 840 Pro Series
1TB Seagate (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache)
2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm
Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler
Windows 7 Professional

haknslash
02-19-2014, 04:58 PM
Funny and ironic you mentioned that as I ended up changing my cpu and motherboard to the same exact as you have ;). After reading a nice review on guru3D about the 4820k (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_4820k_processor_review,1.html) I determined that it wasn't really any faster than the 4770k and Z87 chipset. Unless going 6 or 12 cores I didn't see the need to invest in that level of cpu for my render rig when I already have the 6 core 3960X in my Boxx rig. Plus I saved $100 on the build by changing sockets. My 4770k at home has been very impressive from the tests I've thrown at it, even at stock 3.5GHz.

So I'll use the Boxx rig for my CAD and simulation needs where the additional cores will matter most and use the new render rig as just a dedicated GPU renderer and Blender & 3DS Max rig. We started ordering the parts today from newegg. I made some changedCan't wait!!

haknslash
02-26-2014, 09:36 PM
Parts arrived today...well except for the damn fan controller!

I'll post some pics up next week once I get a chance to do the build. Too much on my plate this week.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/OFFICE_zpsfc04f4a5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/IMG_7463RESIZE_zpsb94d5d8d.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/IMG_7469RESIZE_zpsa5684bc1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/IMG_7456RESIZE_zpsf6335e95.jpg

Aselert
02-27-2014, 08:19 AM
Ohoo! A new superfast PC is coming! ;)

Mar10
02-27-2014, 04:55 PM
That's exciting stuff. Looking forward to seeing it built up and the benchmark numbers it runs! Very interested to see the 3 x 780Ti versus my 2 x 780, since our machines are otherwise very similar.

haknslash
02-27-2014, 05:32 PM
I will be sure to post up my results in the bunkmark thread.

I've come up with a name for the new rig. "The Monolith" :D

Aselert
02-28-2014, 08:26 AM
Hum... I'm predicting 24-26s for the Graffiti Benchmark 960x540 @ 500 passes ;)

Mar10
02-28-2014, 02:36 PM
I would agree on the higher end of that range. I'm guessing 26-27s as 3 standard 780s should do 28-29s, but I'm still hoping for low 20's.

Aselert
02-28-2014, 04:17 PM
Mmmh 20s is very low... Maybe with the Maxwell architecture... ;)

Mar10
02-28-2014, 04:23 PM
Yeah, 20second isn't going to happen. I meant low 20's, meaning 21-24 seconds. These kepler cards are somewhat disappointing but I am still hoping to be wowed by them.

Aselert
02-28-2014, 04:48 PM
Yes in fact, Kepler + Iray have done roughly "nothing" in speed performance... But for other app it's often better.

haknslash
03-04-2014, 10:12 PM
The build has started! I forgot to bring in my DSLR so excuse the crappy iphone pics. I'll take better pics soon!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/IMG_2213_zps63883750.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/IMG_2217_zps93d4215f.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/IMG_2215_zps0eacf4cb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/IMG_2214_zps7428bf4e.jpg

blitz
03-04-2014, 11:25 PM
Lookin' good so far! You are making me wanna build a new rig. :P

haknslash
03-05-2014, 01:07 AM
Yup they are fun!

Test fitting the cards. It is tight and I'm glad I went with a motherboard that had wide equally spaced slots lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/7487DDBB-F376-4612-8A8E-83027AE4CBF4_zpsf1npescw.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/004d5789-6438-4350-b9da-8280afd4365f_zpsf0c93424.jpg

haknslash
03-05-2014, 10:44 PM
Initial boot..... It is alive!



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/photo_zpsdb3907aa.jpg



Waiting on fan extension cables to arrive tomorrow. Only fan hooked up and running is the 140mm rear exhaust and the 4 SP120 rad fans. ROG OC Tuner panel has a nice clear display...



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/asustempnofans_zps9d208286.jpg

haknslash
03-10-2014, 10:38 PM
Well guys she is in the dungeon and she's pretty smokin fast according to the Bunkmark tests! I posted my results in that thread....and it's below 20's!

I also took some pics of the build with my DSLR to do it some justice. Hope you like!

To give you an idea of size those are 3 24" monitors and a 21" Cintiq....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/Setup/IMG_7499_zpsc48031f8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/Setup/IMG_7498_zpsf0332b10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/Setup/IMG_7507_zps48c799a2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/Render%20Rig/Setup/IMG_7508_zpsf62a7615.jpg

Aselert
03-11-2014, 08:14 AM
Wow! Very nice! Love the EVGA cards technik's style ;)

haknslash
03-11-2014, 01:48 PM
Only thing I hate is the way the cables are run on them. I hate those stupid 6 pin connectors hanging off cluttering the look. I might look into custom cables later on or sleeving them to try and clean it up a little. Thanks for the comments!